Cetus - Revision history

Sushoff: /* Eratosthenes */

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Eratosthenes

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	===== Eratosthenes =====		===== Eratosthenes =====
			Pamias and Zucker (2013,<ref>Pamìas, Jordi und Zucker, Arnaud (2013). Ératosthènes de Cyrène: Catastérrismes, Belles Lettres, Paris</ref> 108-109)<blockquote>'''Var. 1:''' This is the sea monster that Poseidon sent to Cepheus because Cassiopeia had challenged the Nereids to a contest of beauty. Perseus slew it, and that is why he was placed amongst the constellations to perpetuate the memory of the hero’s feat. Sophocles, the tragedian, relates these events in his Andromeda. The Sea Monster has two faint stars on its tail, five from the tail to the bulge on its flank, and six beneath its belly. Thirteen in all.</blockquote><blockquote>'''Var. 2:''' This is the monster that Poseidon sent to Cepheus because Cassiopeia had challenged the Nereids to a beauty contest. Perseus slew it, and that is why it was placed amongst the constellations to perpetuate the memory of the hero’s feat. Sophocles, the tragedian, recounts these events in his Andromeda. The sea monster has two dim stars on its tail, five from the tail to the bulge on its flank, and six beneath its belly. Thirteen in all.</blockquote>

	===== Hipparchus =====		===== Hipparchus =====

YoulaAzkarrula: /* Transfer and Transformation of the Constellation */

2026-06-04T06:30:37Z

Transfer and Transformation of the Constellation

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	File:Hydor Farnese-Stellarium smh2022.jpeg\|Figures of the Farnese Globe mapped to the Stellarium star chart (drawing and implementing by SMH 2021). Cetus-region.		File:Hydor Farnese-Stellarium smh2022.jpeg\|Figures of the Farnese Globe mapped to the Stellarium star chart (drawing and implementing by SMH 2021). Cetus-region.
	File:Hydor Mainz smh2023.jpeg\|map of the Mainz Globe with Cetus in the center, surrounded by many dots (star symbols), perhaps representing The Water (drawing by SMH 2023), 2nd century CE		File:Hydor Mainz smh2023.jpeg\|map of the Mainz Globe with Cetus in the center, surrounded by many dots (star symbols), perhaps representing The Water (drawing by SMH 2023), 2nd century CE
			File:H.A. Rey's stick figure stellarium-086.png\|(1952) H.A. Rey's stick figure of Cetus
			File:O. Hlad's stick figure stellarium-087.png\|(1988) O. Hlad's stick figure of Cetus
	</gallery>		</gallery>

Sushoff at 12:01, 2 June 2026

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	* [[References (Medieval and Early Modern)\|References (medieval)]]		* [[References (Medieval and Early Modern)\|References (medieval)]]

	[[Category:Eurasia]] [[Category:~~Constellation~~]] [[Category:~~Almagest~~]] [[Category:~~West~~ Asian]] [[Category:~~Asian~~]] [[Category:Modern]]		[[Category:Eurasia]] [[Category:Ancient Greek]][[Category:West Asian]] [[Category:Asian]]
	[[Category:88 IAU-Constellations]] [[Category:Cet]]		[[Category:Constellation]] [[Category:Almagest]]
			[[Category:Modern]][[Category:88 IAU-Constellations]]
			[[Category:Rubric]] [[Category:Lunar System]] [[Category:Zodiac]]
			[[Category:Cet]]

IanRidpath: /* Almagest Κῆτος */ OCR errors

2026-05-20T12:02:19Z

Almagest Κῆτος: OCR errors

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	\|3		\|3
	\|ὁ μέσος αὐτῶν καὶ ἐν μέσῳ τῷ στόματι		\|ὁ μέσος αὐτῶν καὶ ἐν μέσῳ τῷ στόματι
	\|The three stars in the snout: the middle ~~ane~~, in the ~~middie~~ of the mouth		\|The three stars in the snout: the middle one, in the middle of the mouth
	\|gam Cet		\|gam Cet
	\|-		\|-
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	\|τοῦ ἐῃ τῷ στήθει τετραπλεύρου τῆς ἠγουμένης πλευρᾶς ὁ βόρειος		\|τοῦ ἐῃ τῷ στήθει τετραπλεύρου τῆς ἠγουμένης πλευρᾶς ὁ βόρειος
	\|The quadrilateral in the chest: the northernmost star on ~~thc~~ advance side		\|The quadrilateral in the chest: the northernmost star on the advance side
	\|rho Cet		\|rho Cet
	\|-		\|-
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	\|18		\|18
	\|ὁ νότιος τῆς ἐπομένης πλευρᾶς.		\|ὁ νότιος τῆς ἐπομένης πλευρᾶς.
	\|The quadrilateral in the section next to the tail: the southernmost one on ~~thc~~ rear side		\|The quadrilateral in the section next to the tail: the southernmost one on the rear side
	\|HR 227		\|HR 227
	\|-		\|-
	\|19		\|19
	\|τῆς προηγουμένης πλευρᾶς ὁ βόρειος		\|τῆς προηγουμένης πλευρᾶς ὁ βόρειος
	\|The quadrilateral in the section next to the tail: the northernmost one on ~~thc~~ advance side		\|The quadrilateral in the section next to the tail: the northernmost one on the advance side
	\|phi Cet		\|phi Cet
	\|-		\|-
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	\|ἀστέρες πβ, ὥν γ’ μεγέδους ἰ, δ’ ἢ, εἱ δ.		\|ἀστέρες πβ, ὥν γ’ μεγέδους ἰ, δ’ ἢ, εἱ δ.
	\|{22 ~~Stars~~, 10 of the third magnitude, 8 of the fourth, 4 of the fifth}		\|{22 stars, 10 of the third magnitude, 8 of the fourth, 4 of the fifth}
	\|		\|
	\|}		\|}

IanRidpath: /* Weblinks */ Added Warburg link

2026-05-19T17:03:13Z

Weblinks: Added Warburg link

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	== Weblinks ==		== Weblinks ==
	* Ridpath, Ian, “[http://www.ianridpath.com/startales/cetus.html Star Tales: online edition]”.		* Ridpath, Ian, “[http://www.ianridpath.com/startales/cetus.html Star Tales: online edition]”.
			* [https://iconographic.warburg.sas.ac.uk/category/vpc-taxonomy-017081 Warburg Institute Iconographic Database – Cetus]

	== References ==		== References ==

Sushoff at 12:08, 19 May 2026

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	[[Category:Eurasia]] [[Category:Constellation]] [[Category:Almagest]] [[Category:West Asian]] [[Category:Asian]] [[Category:Modern]]		[[Category:Eurasia]] [[Category:Constellation]] [[Category:Almagest]] [[Category:West Asian]] [[Category:Asian]] [[Category:Modern]]
	[[Category:88 IAU-Constellations]] [[Category:Cet]]		[[Category:88 IAU-Constellations]] [[Category:Cet]]
	~~[[Category:4work]]~~

YoulaAzkarrula at 01:55, 18 May 2026

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	* [[References (Medieval and Early Modern)\|References (medieval)]]		* [[References (Medieval and Early Modern)\|References (medieval)]]

	[[Category:Eurasia]] [[Category:Constellation]] [[Category:Almagest]] [[Category:West Asian]] [[Category:Modern]]		[[Category:Eurasia]] [[Category:Constellation]] [[Category:Almagest]] [[Category:West Asian]] [[Category:Asian]] [[Category:Modern]]
	[[Category:88 IAU-Constellations]]		[[Category:88 IAU-Constellations]] [[Category:Cet]]
	[[Category:4work]]		[[Category:4work]]

Sushoff: /* Setting (Lib II Cap VI §10) */

2026-02-27T13:56:40Z

Setting (Lib II Cap VI §10)

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	===== Hipparchus =====		===== Hipparchus =====

	====== Rising (Lib II Cap ~~V §10~~) ======		====== Rising (Lib III Cap I §8) ======
	<blockquote>The Rising of ...</blockquote>		<blockquote>The Rising of ...</blockquote>
	{\| class="wikitable"		{\| class="wikitable"
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	====== Setting (Lib II ~~Cap VI §10~~) ======		====== Setting (Lib III Cap II §8) ======
	{\| class="wikitable"		{\| class="wikitable"
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	\|		\|
	\|		\|Aqr 26 1/2
	\|		\|Ari 14
	\|		\|Tau 22
	\|		\|Cnc 14 1/2
	\|-		\|-
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	\|star		\|star
	\|		\|the southern one of those in the tail (bet)
	\|		\|the rear one of those in the northern curvature of the head
	\|		\|
	\|		\|
	\|-		\|-
	\|duration		\|duration
	\| colspan="4" \|~~2 2~~/3 hours = ~~160~~ min = ~~40°~~		\| colspan="4" \|3 7/8 hours = 232 1/2 min = 58 1/8°
	\|}		\|}

Sushoff: /* Rising (Lib II Cap V §10) */

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Rising (Lib II Cap V §10)

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	\|-		\|-
	\|		\|
	\|		\|Psc 20
	\|		\|Tau 7
	\|		\|Sgr 23 1/2
	\|		\|Cap 21 1/2
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	\|star		\|star
	\|		\|the northern one of those in the tail (iota)
	\|		\|Among the bright ones in the quadrilateral, the southern one of the rear (tau)
	\|		\|
	\|		\|
	\|-		\|-
	\|duration		\|duration
	\| colspan="4" \|2 ~~1/8~~ hours = ~~127.5~~ min = ~~31 7/8~~ degree		\| colspan="4" \|2 hours = 120 min = 30 degree
	\|}		\|}

Sushoff at 11:54, 27 February 2026

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	The Greek name κῆτος (''ketos'') does not in any case refer to a real animal, but only to a mythological creature. Its Latinized version "cetus", however, may also designate a whale. "Though archaeological findings of whale remains are uncommon in Greece, there exist few examples of ancient whalebones in the Aegean Sea, probably originating from stranded whales. ... Combined with archaeological artifacts as the bones of prehistorical giant sea creatures in the Wādī al-Ḥītān (Valley of Whales) in today's Egypt, this might have triggered traveller's imagination and have led to further stories (and cock-and-bull story)."<ref name=":0" />		The Greek name κῆτος (''ketos'') does not in any case refer to a real animal, but only to a mythological creature. Its Latinized version "cetus", however, may also designate a whale. "Though archaeological findings of whale remains are uncommon in Greece, there exist few examples of ancient whalebones in the Aegean Sea, probably originating from stranded whales. ... Combined with archaeological artifacts as the bones of prehistorical giant sea creatures in the Wādī al-Ḥītān (Valley of Whales) in today's Egypt, this might have triggered traveller's imagination and have led to further stories (and cock-and-bull story)."<ref name=":0" />
	=== Origin of Constellation ===		=== Origin of Constellation ===
	As this constellation does not have a Babylonian equivalent, we suspect that it was taken from another culture in order to diversify the sky culture in Alexander's new empire.		<ref>Hoffmann, Susanne M. Wie der Löwe an den Himmel kam. Franckh Kosmos Verlag, Stuttgart 2021</ref>As this constellation does not have a Babylonian equivalent, we suspect that it was taken from another culture in order to diversify the sky culture in Alexander's new empire.

	Ketos ([[Cetus]]) is one of the classical Greek constellations: it belongs to the [[Andromeda]] group, which dates back to a tragedy by Sophocles (5th century BCE). In English texts from earlier centuries, the word was often mistakenly translated as ‘whale’. Apart from the fact that whales are not fish, Ketos is neither a whale nor a fish: it is the name of a sea monster, a terrifying mythical creature – it is best to leave the word untranslated, as with the names [[Cassiopeia]], [[Andromeda]] and [[Cepheus]].		Ketos ([[Cetus]]) is one of the classical Greek constellations: it belongs to the [[Andromeda]] group, which dates back to a tragedy by Sophocles (5th century BCE). In English texts from earlier centuries, the word was often mistakenly translated as ‘whale’. Apart from the fact that whales are not fish, Ketos is neither a whale nor a fish: it is the name of a sea monster, a terrifying mythical creature – it is best to leave the word untranslated, as with the names [[Cassiopeia]], [[Andromeda]] and [[Cepheus]].