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Sushoff at 09:18, 10 June 2026

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	<sup>múl d</sup>GENNA (𒋼𒀭𒌉𒁹) = ''kayyamānu''(''m'') "Constant" is a common name for Saturn in cuneiform. It is the name that is used in the lists of 7 planets in the Late Babylonian Uranology tablet MCL 1866 and contemporary Late Babylonian ritual texts. The sign GENNA is the compound TUR.DIŠ''. ~~We should explain why this name is used maybe???~~''		<sup>múl d</sup>GENNA (𒋼𒀭𒌉𒁹) = ''kayyamānu''(''m'') "Constant" is a common name for Saturn in cuneiform. It is "constant" in the sense that Saturn as slowest of all planets visible to the naked eye with the smallest loop in opposition, appears to be the most constant with regard to the starry background.

			It is the name that is used in the lists of 7 planets in the Late Babylonian Uranology tablet MCL 1866 and contemporary Late Babylonian ritual texts. The sign GENNA is the compound TUR.DIŠ''.''

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	* <sup>d</sup>TUR.DIŠ;		* <sup>d</sup>TUR.DIŠ;
	* ''= [[Kayyamānu(m)\|kayyamānu(m]]) "''Constant"; ~~The~~ Sumerian equivalents of ''kayyamānu''(''m'') [[SAG.UŠ\|<sup>mul/d</sup>SAG.UŠ]] and [[UDU.IDIM.SAG.UŠ]] (Kurtik s10, u09) are also commonly used in the first millennium BCE.		* ''= [[Kayyamānu(m)\|kayyamānu(m]]) "''Constant"; Sumerian equivalents of ''kayyamānu''(''m'')
			A designation of Saturn in astronomical texts of the first millennium BCE [Gössmann 69].
	~~A designation of Saturn in astronomical texts of the first millennium BCE [Gössmann 69]~~.		* [[SAG.UŠ\|<sup>mul/d</sup>SAG.UŠ]] and [[UDU.IDIM.SAG.UŠ]] (Kurtik s10, u09) are also commonly used in the first millennium BCE.

	The name apparently comes from the Akkadian word, ''ginâ'', "constantly, normally" [AHw, 289; CAD G, 78], close in meaning to ''kayyamānu'', and apparently reflects the slow motion of Saturn relative to the stars in comparison to other planets.		The name apparently comes from the Akkadian word, ''ginâ'', "constantly, normally" [AHw, 289; CAD G, 78], close in meaning to ''kayyamānu'', and apparently reflects the slow motion of Saturn relative to the stars in comparison to other planets.
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	* Neo-Babylonian comments: GENNA = ''ka-a-a-nu'' [AHw, 420].		* Neo-Babylonian comments: GENNA = ''ka-a-a-nu'' [AHw, 420].
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	* a) ''aš''<sub>2</sub>''-šu''<sub>2</sub> <sup>d</sup>TUR.DIŠ ''lu'' [...] ''ina'' KI SAL.MEŠ KI <sup>d</sup>''Sin'' UŠ U<sub>3</sub>.TU		* a)
			** ''aš''<sub>2</sub>''-šu''<sub>2</sub> <sup>d</sup>TUR.DIŠ ''lu'' [...] ''ina'' KI SAL.MEŠ KI <sup>d</sup>''Sin'' UŠ U<sub>3</sub>.TU
	** "Because Saturn or [Mars] (stands) with the moon (or: at the place of the Moon) in the region of females: a male child will be born." [LBAT, 1593:7′-8′; Reiner 2000].		** "Because Saturn or [Mars] (stands) with the moon (or: at the place of the Moon) in the region of females: a male child will be born." [LBAT, 1593:7′-8′; Reiner 2000].
	* b) ''aš''<sub>2</sub>-''šu''<sub>2</sub> <sup>d</sup>TUR.DIŠ ''u'' <sup>d</sup>''Ṣal-bat<sup>?</sup>-a<sup>?</sup>-nu<sup>?</sup>'' KI ''Sin'' / 2 UŠ<sup>(!)</sup>.MEŠ U<sub>3</sub>.TU		* b)
			** ''aš''<sub>2</sub>-''šu''<sub>2</sub> <sup>d</sup>TUR.DIŠ ''u'' <sup>d</sup>''Ṣal-bat<sup>?</sup>-a<sup>?</sup>-nu<sup>?</sup>'' KI ''Sin'' / 2 UŠ<sup>(!)</sup>.MEŠ U<sub>3</sub>.TU
	** "Because Saturn and Mars? with [or: at the place of] the Moon (stand): 2 (male babies?) will be born." [LBAT, 1593:9′-10′; Reiner 2000].		** "Because Saturn and Mars? with [or: at the place of] the Moon (stand): 2 (male babies?) will be born." [LBAT, 1593:9′-10′; Reiner 2000].
	* c) Mercury or Saturn with the Moon, see (Kurtik g34) [[GU4.UD\|GU<sub>4</sub>.UD]].		* c) Mercury or Saturn with the Moon, see (Kurtik g34) [[GU4.UD\|GU<sub>4</sub>.UD]].

WayneHorowitz: we should explain why this name is used

2026-06-10T09:03:41Z

we should explain why this name is used

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	<sup>múl d</sup>GENNA (𒋼𒀭𒌉𒁹) = ''kayyamānu''(''m'') "Constant" is a common name for Saturn in cuneiform. It is the name that is used in the lists of 7 planets in the Late Babylonian Uranology tablet MCL 1866 and contemporary Late Babylonian ritual texts. The sign GENNA is the compound TUR.DIŠ''.''		<sup>múl d</sup>GENNA (𒋼𒀭𒌉𒁹) = ''kayyamānu''(''m'') "Constant" is a common name for Saturn in cuneiform. It is the name that is used in the lists of 7 planets in the Late Babylonian Uranology tablet MCL 1866 and contemporary Late Babylonian ritual texts. The sign GENNA is the compound TUR.DIŠ''. We should explain why this name is used maybe???''

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HermannHunger: /* Concordance, Etymology, History[1] */

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Concordance, Etymology, History[1]

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	<sup>múl d</sup>GENNA (𒋼𒀭𒌉𒁹) = ''kayyamānu''(''m'') "Constant" is a common name for Saturn in cuneiform. It is the name that is used in the lists of 7 planets in ~~the~~ the Late Babylonian Uranology tablet MCL 1866 and contemporary Late Babylonian ritual texts. The sign GENNA is the compound TUR.DIŠ''.''		<sup>múl d</sup>GENNA (𒋼𒀭𒌉𒁹) = ''kayyamānu''(''m'') "Constant" is a common name for Saturn in cuneiform. It is the name that is used in the lists of 7 planets in the Late Babylonian Uranology tablet MCL 1866 and contemporary Late Babylonian ritual texts. The sign GENNA is the compound TUR.DIŠ''.''

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	* ''= [[Kayyamānu(m)\|kayyamānu(m]]) "''Constant"; The Sumerian equivalents of ''kayyamānu''(''m'') [[SAG.UŠ\|<sup>mul/d</sup>SAG.UŠ]] and [[UDU.IDIM.SAG.UŠ]] (Kurtik s10, u09) are also commonly used in the first millennium BCE.		* ''= [[Kayyamānu(m)\|kayyamānu(m]]) "''Constant"; The Sumerian equivalents of ''kayyamānu''(''m'') [[SAG.UŠ\|<sup>mul/d</sup>SAG.UŠ]] and [[UDU.IDIM.SAG.UŠ]] (Kurtik s10, u09) are also commonly used in the first millennium BCE.

	A designation of Saturn in astronomical texts of the first millennium BCE [G. 69].		A designation of Saturn in astronomical texts of the first millennium BCE [Gössmann 69].

	The name apparently comes from the Akkadian word, ''ginâ'', "constantly, normally" [AHw, 289; CAD G, 78], close in meaning to ''kayyamānu'', and apparently reflects the slow motion of Saturn relative to the stars in comparison to other planets.		The name apparently comes from the Akkadian word, ''ginâ'', "constantly, normally" [AHw, 289; CAD G, 78], close in meaning to ''kayyamānu'', and apparently reflects the slow motion of Saturn relative to the stars in comparison to other planets.
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	* a) ''aš''<sub>2</sub>''-šu''<sub>2</sub> <sup>d</sup>TUR.DIŠ ''lu'' [...] ''ina'' KI SAL.MEŠ KI <sup>d</sup>''Sin'' UŠ U<sub>3</sub>.TU		* a) ''aš''<sub>2</sub>''-šu''<sub>2</sub> <sup>d</sup>TUR.DIŠ ''lu'' [...] ''ina'' KI SAL.MEŠ KI <sup>d</sup>''Sin'' UŠ U<sub>3</sub>.TU
	** "~~Since~~ Saturn or [Mars] (stands) with the moon (or: at the place of the Moon) in the region of females: a male child will be born." [LBAT, 1593:7′-8′; Reiner 2000].		** "Because Saturn or [Mars] (stands) with the moon (or: at the place of the Moon) in the region of females: a male child will be born." [LBAT, 1593:7′-8′; Reiner 2000].
	* b) ''aš''<sub>2</sub>-''šu''<sub>2</sub> <sup>d</sup>TUR.DIŠ ''u'' <sup>d</sup>''Ṣal-bat<sup>?</sup>-a<sup>?</sup>-nu<sup>?</sup>'' KI ''Sin'' / 2 UŠ<sup>(!)</sup>.MEŠ U<sub>3</sub>.TU		* b) ''aš''<sub>2</sub>-''šu''<sub>2</sub> <sup>d</sup>TUR.DIŠ ''u'' <sup>d</sup>''Ṣal-bat<sup>?</sup>-a<sup>?</sup>-nu<sup>?</sup>'' KI ''Sin'' / 2 UŠ<sup>(!)</sup>.MEŠ U<sub>3</sub>.TU
	** "Because Saturn and Mars? with [or: at the place of] the Moon (stand): 2 (male babies?) will be born." [LBAT, 1593:9′-10′; Reiner 2000].		** "Because Saturn and Mars? with [or: at the place of] the Moon (stand): 2 (male babies?) will be born." [LBAT, 1593:9′-10′; Reiner 2000].

HermannHunger: /* Concordance, Etymology, History[1] */

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	* <sup>d</sup>TUR.DIŠ;		* <sup>d</sup>TUR.DIŠ;
	* ''= [[Kayyamānu(m)\|kayyamānu(m]]) "''Constant"; The Sumerian equivalents of kayyamānu(m) [[SAG.UŠ\|<sup>mul/d</sup>SAG.UŠ]] and [[UDU.IDIM.SAG.UŠ]] (Kurtik s10, u09) are also commonly used in the first millennium BCE.		* ''= [[Kayyamānu(m)\|kayyamānu(m]]) "''Constant"; The Sumerian equivalents of ''kayyamānu''(''m'') [[SAG.UŠ\|<sup>mul/d</sup>SAG.UŠ]] and [[UDU.IDIM.SAG.UŠ]] (Kurtik s10, u09) are also commonly used in the first millennium BCE.

	A designation of Saturn in astronomical texts of the first millennium BCE [G. 69].		A designation of Saturn in astronomical texts of the first millennium BCE [G. 69].

	The name apparently comes from the Akkadian word, ginâ, "constantly, normally" ~~[AHw.~~ [AHw, 289; CAD G, 78], close in meaning to kayyamānu, and apparently reflects the slow motion of Saturn relative to the stars in comparison to other planets.		The name apparently comes from the Akkadian word, ''ginâ'', "constantly, normally" [AHw, 289; CAD G, 78], close in meaning to ''kayyamānu'', and apparently reflects the slow motion of Saturn relative to the stars in comparison to other planets.
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	* a) ''aš''<sub>2</sub>''-šu''<sub>2</sub> <sup>d</sup>TUR.DIŠ ''lu'' [...] ''ina'' KI SAL.MEŠ KI <sup>d</sup>''Sin~~'' DU''-zu~~'' UŠ U<sub>3</sub>.TU		* a) ''aš''<sub>2</sub>''-šu''<sub>2</sub> <sup>d</sup>TUR.DIŠ ''lu'' [...] ''ina'' KI SAL.MEŠ KI <sup>d</sup>''Sin'' UŠ U<sub>3</sub>.TU
	** "Since Saturn or [Mars], stands with the moon (or: in place of the Moon) ~~within~~ the ~~boundaries~~ of ~~the female~~: a male child will be born." [LBAT, 1593:7′-8′; Reiner 2000].		** "Since Saturn or [Mars] (stands) with the moon (or: at the place of the Moon) in the region of females: a male child will be born." [LBAT, 1593:7′-8′; Reiner 2000].
	* b) ''aš''<sub>2</sub>-''šu''<sub>2</sub> <sup>d</sup>TUR.DIŠ ''u'' <sup>d</sup>''Ṣal-bat<sup>?</sup>-a<sup>?</sup>-nu<sup>?</sup>'' KI ''Sin'' / 2 UŠ<sup>(!)</sup>.MEŠ U<sub>3</sub>.TU		* b) ''aš''<sub>2</sub>-''šu''<sub>2</sub> <sup>d</sup>TUR.DIŠ ''u'' <sup>d</sup>''Ṣal-bat<sup>?</sup>-a<sup>?</sup>-nu<sup>?</sup>'' KI ''Sin'' / 2 UŠ<sup>(!)</sup>.MEŠ U<sub>3</sub>.TU
	** "As Saturn and Mars? with [or: in place of] the Moon (~~stands~~): 2 (male babies?) ~~are~~ born." [LBAT, 1593:9′-10′; Reiner 2000].		** "Because Saturn and Mars? with [or: at the place of] the Moon (stand): 2 (male babies?) will be born." [LBAT, 1593:9′-10′; Reiner 2000].
	* c) Mercury or Saturn with the Moon, see (Kurtik g34) [[GU4.UD\|GU<sub>4</sub>.UD]].		* c) Mercury or Saturn with the Moon, see (Kurtik g34) [[GU4.UD\|GU<sub>4</sub>.UD]].
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	==== Ritual Texts/ ~~Miscellenous~~ ====		==== Ritual Texts/ Miscellaneous ====

	* (1) New Year ritual in Babylon: <sup>múl</sup>~~genna mul~~ ''kit-tu''<sub>2</sub> ''u mi-šar'', "Saturn, the star of ~~judgment~~ and justice". [RAcc. 138:307; Linssen 2004, 220:307].		* (1) New Year ritual in Babylon: <sup>múl</sup>GENNA MUL ''kit-tu''<sub>2</sub> ''u mi-šar'', "Saturn, the star of truth and justice". [RAcc. 138:307; Linssen 2004, 220:307].
	* (2) Ritual in Uruk, see (Kurtik u07) [[UDU.IDIM]].		* (2) Ritual in Uruk, see (Kurtik u07) [[UDU.IDIM]].

YoulaAzkarrula at 05:41, 20 May 2026

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JanSafford at 10:35, 24 April 2026

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	Only in later copies and commentaries, cf. [~~ABCD~~, 285, BM 47447 Rev. 29; SpTU I, 90:4-5, 7, 9; SpTU II, 42 r. 1, 6; SpTU III, 102 Rs. 8; SpTU IV, 162 r. 13].		Only in later copies and commentaries, cf. [Rochberg-Halton 1988<ref>''Rochberg-Halton F''. Aspect of Babylonian Celestial Divination: The Lunar Eclipse Tablets of Enuma Anu Enlil. Horn, 1988 (AfO, Beiheft 22).</ref>, 285, BM 47447 Rev. 29; SpTU I, 90:4-5, 7, 9; SpTU II, 42 r. 1, 6; SpTU III, 102 Rs. 8; SpTU IV, 162 r. 13].
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Sushoff at 16:56, 26 March 2026

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	Authors: ~~Gennady Kurtik,~~ {{PAGEAUTHORS}}~~, Euin Choung Kim~~		Authors: {{PAGEAUTHORS}}
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	<sup>múl d</sup>GENNA (𒋼𒀭𒌉𒁹) = ''kayyamānu''(''m'') "Constant" is a common name for Saturn in cuneiform. It is the name that is used in the lists of 7 planets in the the Late Babylonian Uranology tablet MCL 1866 and contemporary Late Babylonian ritual texts. The sign GENNA is the compound TUR.DIŠ''.''		<sup>múl d</sup>GENNA (𒋼𒀭𒌉𒁹) = ''kayyamānu''(''m'') "Constant" is a common name for Saturn in cuneiform. It is the name that is used in the lists of 7 planets in the the Late Babylonian Uranology tablet MCL 1866 and contemporary Late Babylonian ritual texts. The sign GENNA is the compound TUR.DIŠ''.''

Sushoff at 14:51, 22 January 2026

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	<sup>múl d</sup>GENNA (𒋼𒀭𒌉𒁹) = ''kayyamānu''(''m'') "Constant" is a common name for Saturn in cuneiform. It is the name that is used in the lists of 7 planets in the the Late Babylonian Uranology tablet MCL 1866 and contemporary Late Babylonian ritual texts. The sign GENNA is the compound TUR.DIŠ''.''		<sup>múl d</sup>GENNA (𒋼𒀭𒌉𒁹) = ''kayyamānu''(''m'') "Constant" is a common name for Saturn in cuneiform. It is the name that is used in the lists of 7 planets in the the Late Babylonian Uranology tablet MCL 1866 and contemporary Late Babylonian ritual texts. The sign GENNA is the compound TUR.DIŠ''.''

Sushoff at 07:21, 17 January 2026

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	<sup>múl d</sup>GENNA (𒋼𒀭𒌉𒁹) = ''kayyamānu''(''m'') "Constant" is a common name for Saturn in cuneiform. It is the name that is used in the lists of 7 planets in the the Late Babylonian Uranology tablet MCL 1866 and contemporary Late Babylonian ritual texts. The sign GENNA is the compound TUR.DIŠ''.''		<sup>múl d</sup>GENNA (𒋼𒀭𒌉𒁹) = ''kayyamānu''(''m'') "Constant" is a common name for Saturn in cuneiform. It is the name that is used in the lists of 7 planets in the the Late Babylonian Uranology tablet MCL 1866 and contemporary Late Babylonian ritual texts. The sign GENNA is the compound TUR.DIŠ''.''

Sushoff at 19:54, 15 December 2025

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	==Concordance, Etymology, History==		==Concordance, Etymology, History<ref>[[Mesopotamian (All Terms)\|Planetarium Babylonicum 2.0]], All Skies Encyclopaedia.</ref>==
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	The name apparently comes from the Akkadian word, ginâ, "constantly, normally" [AHw. [AHw, 289; CAD G, 78], close in meaning to kayyamānu, and apparently reflects the slow motion of Saturn relative to the stars in comparison to other planets.		The name apparently comes from the Akkadian word, ginâ, "constantly, normally" [AHw. [AHw, 289; CAD G, 78], close in meaning to kayyamānu, and apparently reflects the slow motion of Saturn relative to the stars in comparison to other planets.
	~~===Kurtik with Hilder, Hoffmann, Horowitz, Kim===~~
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