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Sushoff: /* Eratosthenes */

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Eratosthenes

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	===== Eratosthenes =====		===== Eratosthenes =====
			Pamias and Zucker (2013,<ref>Pamìas, Jordi und Zucker, Arnaud (2013). Ératosthènes de Cyrène: Catastérrismes, Belles Lettres, Paris</ref> 112-113)<blockquote>'''Var. 1 (Περὶ τοῦ μεγάλου Ἰχθύος)''': This is the one known as “the Great Fish”, which, it is said, swallows up the water of the Flood poured out by Aquarius. It is said of him, according to Ctesias, that he was originally found in a lake in the region of Bambyke. Derketo, whom the locals are wont to call “the Syrian goddess”, had fallen into it during the night, and it seems that the Fish saved her. It is also said that the two Fish were born from him, and it is because of her, since she is the daughter of Aphrodite, that they were all granted the honour of being placed amongst the constellations. Moreover, the inhabitants of this country make fish out of gold and silver, and they worship them as sacred [and pay perfect homage to this event]. </blockquote><blockquote>'''Var. 2 (Ἰχθύος)''': This is the creature known as ‘the Great Fish’, which, it is said, swallows up the water of the Flood poured forth by Aquarius. According to Ctesias, it is said that it was originally found in a lake in the region of Bambyke. Derketo, whom the local inhabitants are in the habit of calling “the Syrian goddess”, fell into it one night, and it seems that the Fish saved her. It is also said that the two Fish were born from him, and they were all granted the honour of being placed amongst the constellations.</blockquote><blockquote>Pisces has twelve stars, three of which shine brightly on its snout.</blockquote>

	===== Hipparchus =====		===== Hipparchus =====

YoulaAzkarrula: /* Transfer and Transformation of the Constellation */

2026-06-04T05:30:02Z

Transfer and Transformation of the Constellation

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	===Transfer and Transformation of the Constellation===		===Transfer and Transformation of the Constellation===
			<gallery>
			File:H.A. Rey's stick figure stellarium-064.png\|(1952) H.A. Rey's stick figure of Piscis Austrinus
			File:O. Hlad's stick figure stellarium-065.png\|(1988) O. Hlad's stick figure of Piscis Austrinus
			</gallery>

	==Mythology/ Religion==		==Mythology/ Religion==

YoulaAzkarrula at 12:10, 26 May 2026

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	*[[References (Medieval and Early Modern)\|References (medieval)]]		*[[References (Medieval and Early Modern)\|References (medieval)]]

	[[Category:Eurasia]] [[Category:Constellation]]		[[Category:Eurasia]] [[Category:Constellation]] [[Category:Asterism]]
	[[Category:Almagest]]		[[Category:Almagest]]
	[[Category:Mesopotamian]]		[[Category:Mesopotamian]]
	[[Category:West Asian]]		[[Category:West Asian]] [[Category:Asian]]
	[[Category:Modern]]		[[Category:Modern]]
	[[Category:88 IAU-Constellations]]		[[Category:88 IAU-Constellations]] [[Category:PsA]]

IanRidpath: /* Almagest */ OCR errors, missing heading and totals

2026-05-20T13:36:30Z

Almagest: OCR errors, missing heading and totals

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	\|1		\|1
	\|ὁ ἐν τῷ στόματι ὁ αὐτὸς τῇ ἀρχῇ τοῦ Ὕδατος		\|ὁ ἐν τῷ στόματι ὁ αὐτὸς τῇ ἀρχῇ τοῦ Ὕδατος
	\|The star in the mouth, which is the same as the beginning ~~ofthe~~ water		\|The star in the mouth, which is the same as the beginning of the water
	\|alf PsA		\|alf PsA
	\|-		\|-
	\|2		\|2
	\|τῶν ἐπὶ τῆς φοτίου τῆς κεφαλῆς περιφερεύας γ’ ὁ ἠγούμενος		\|τῶν ἐπὶ τῆς φοτίου τῆς κεφαλῆς περιφερεύας γ’ ὁ ἠγούμενος
	\|Thc most advanced of thc 3 stars on the ~~southcrn~~ rim of the head		\|Thc most advanced of thc 3 stars on the southern rim of the head
	\|bet PsA		\|bet PsA
	\|-		\|-
	\|3		\|3
	\|ὁ μέσος αὐτῶν		\|ὁ μέσος αὐτῶν
	\|The ~~middlc onc~~		\|The middle one
	\|gam PsA		\|gam PsA
	\|-		\|-
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	\|5		\|5
	\|ὁ πρὸς τῷ βράγχω		\|ὁ πρὸς τῷ βράγχω
	\|The star ~~hy thc~~ gills		\|The star by the gills
	\|eps PsA		\|eps PsA
	\|-		\|-
	\|6		\|6
	\|ὁ ἐπὶ τῆς νωτιαίας νοτίου ἀκάνθης		\|ὁ ἐπὶ τῆς νωτιαίας νοτίου ἀκάνθης
	\|The star on the ~~southcrnmost~~ spine on the back		\|The star on the southernmost spine on the back
	\|mu PsA		\|mu PsA
	\|-		\|-
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	\|9		\|9
	\|τῶν ἐπὶ τῆς βορείου ἀκάνθης ἢ’ ὁ ἐπόμενος		\|τῶν ἐπὶ τῆς βορείου ἀκάνθης ἢ’ ὁ ἐπόμενος
	\|The rearmost af the 3 stars on the northern spine		\|The rearmost of the 3 stars on the northern spine
	\|eta PsA		\|eta PsA
	\|-		\|-
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	!		!
	!Οἱ περὶ τὸν νότιον Ἰχθὺν ἀμόρφωτοι.		!Οἱ περὶ τὸν νότιον Ἰχθὺν ἀμόρφωτοι.
	!		!Stars round Piscis Austrinus outside the constellation:
	!		!
	\|-		\|-
	\|		\|
	\|τῶν προηγουμένων λαμπρῶν φ τοῦ Ἰχθύος ὁ ἠγούμενος		\|τῶν προηγουμένων λαμπρῶν φ τοῦ Ἰχθύος ὁ ἠγούμενος
	\|The most advanced ~~ofthe~~ 3 bright stars in advance ~~ofPiscis~~ [Austrinus]		\|The most advanced of the 3 bright stars in advance of Piscis [Austrinus]
	\|eta Mic		\|eta Mic
	\|-		\|-
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	\|all		\|all
	\|ἀστέρες ξ, ὥν γ’ μεγέθους γ, δ’ β, εα.		\|ἀστέρες ξ, ὥν γ’ μεγέθους γ, δ’ β, εα.
	\|		\|{6 stars, 3 of the third magnitude, 2 of the fourth, 1 of the fifth}
	\|		\|
	\|}		\|}

IanRidpath: /* Weblinks */ Added Warburg link

2026-05-20T09:16:12Z

Weblinks: Added Warburg link

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	==Weblinks==		==Weblinks==
	* Ridpath, Ian, “[http://www.ianridpath.com/startales/piscisaustrinus.html Star Tales: online edition]”.		* Ridpath, Ian, “[http://www.ianridpath.com/startales/piscisaustrinus.html Star Tales: online edition]”.
			* [https://iconographic.warburg.sas.ac.uk/category/vpc-taxonomy-017073 Warburg Institute Iconographic Database – Piscis Magnus]

	==References ==		==References ==

Sushoff at 12:52, 19 May 2026

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	[[Category:Modern]]		[[Category:Modern]]
	[[Category:88 IAU-Constellations]]		[[Category:88 IAU-Constellations]]
	~~[[Category:4work]]~~

Sushoff: /* Setting (Lib II Cap VI §10) */

2026-02-27T13:53:28Z

Setting (Lib II Cap VI §10)

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	====== Setting (Lib II ~~Cap VI §10~~) ======		====== Setting (Lib III Cap II §7) ======
	{\| class="wikitable"		{\| class="wikitable"
	!		!
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	\|-		\|-
	\|		\|
	\|		\|Sgr 24
	\|		\|Cap 17 1/2
	\|		\|Psc 3
	\|		\|Ari 2
	\|-		\|-
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	\|-		\|-
	\|star		\|star
	\|		\|the southern one of the bright ones in the tail (gam Gru)
	\|		\|the very bright one at the mouth
	\|		\|
	\|		\|
	\|-		\|-
	\|duration		\|duration
	\| colspan="4" \|~~2 2~~/3 hours = ~~160~~ min = ~~40°~~		\| colspan="4" \|1 4/5 hours = 108 min = 27°
	\|}		\|}

Sushoff at 12:38, 27 February 2026

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	==Etymology and History==		==Etymology and History==
	===Origin of Constellation===		===Origin of Constellation===
	In Greek, this constellation is called the Great Fish or simply Fish. This section is missing on the Farnese Atlas globe because it is covered by the shoulder of the Titan.		<ref>Hoffmann, Susanne M. Wie der Löwe an den Himmel kam. Franckh Kosmos Verlag, Stuttgart 2021</ref>In Greek, this constellation is called the Great Fish or simply Fish. This section is missing on the Farnese Atlas globe because it is covered by the shoulder of the Titan.

	In the Almagest, it is described as lying on its back, and the Carolingian Leiden Aratea (+9th century) also shows the figure in this position. Eratosthenes reports that this fish snaps at water, specifically the water that [[Aquarius]] pours out.		In the Almagest, it is described as lying on its back, and the Carolingian Leiden Aratea (+9th century) also shows the figure in this position. Eratosthenes reports that this fish snaps at water, specifically the water that [[Aquarius]] pours out.

Sushoff: /* Greek Mythology */

2026-02-26T18:47:10Z

Greek Mythology

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	===Transfer and Transformation of the Constellation===		===Transfer and Transformation of the Constellation===

	==~~Greek~~ Mythology==		==Mythology/ Religion==

			Greek

			Eratosthenes reports that this fish lived in a lake near Bambyke, a city in Syria northeast of Aleppo. When the goddess Derketo fell into this lake one night, she was saved by this fish.

			Derketo is a Syrian goddess who is depicted as a kind of mermaid: a female upper body with a fish tail. She was probably a Ugaritic goddess of the sky and/or sea (Syria, 3rd millennium BCE) and is equated by Hesiod (modern-day Turkey, around 700 BCE) with Aphrodite Urania, a heavenly goddess of love. Depictions on coins from a later period (1st century BCE) suggest that she also functioned as a goddess of fertility. Derketo thus had similar roles to the Babylonian Ishtar, and we will encounter this figure again in the constellation [[Andromeda]].

			It is not known which of the variants of this goddess of love Eratosthenes' source refers to. In any case, fish are sacred animals in this region of Syria and were therefore placed among the stars. This is probably how the constellation Pisces came into being, which he describes in the same context as the Great Fish. According to Eratosthenes, the small fish are descendants of the Great Fish.


	==Weblinks==		==Weblinks==
	* Ridpath, Ian, “[http://www.ianridpath.com/startales/piscisaustrinus.html Star Tales: online edition]”.		* Ridpath, Ian, “[http://www.ianridpath.com/startales/piscisaustrinus.html Star Tales: online edition]”.

Sushoff at 18:45, 26 February 2026

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	==Etymology and History==		==Etymology and History==
	~~The~~ Greek constellation ...		===Origin of Constellation===
			In Greek, this constellation is called the Great Fish or simply Fish. This section is missing on the Farnese Atlas globe because it is covered by the shoulder of the Titan.

			In the Almagest, it is described as lying on its back, and the Carolingian Leiden Aratea (+9th century) also shows the figure in this position. Eratosthenes reports that this fish snaps at water, specifically the water that [[Aquarius]] pours out.

	~~===Origin~~ of ~~Constellation===~~		The Arabs introduce a new aspect here, which is mixed with the Greek version in as-Sufi (10th century): the bright star at the mouth of the fish (now called [[Fomalhaut]]) apparently had the name ‘Southern Frog’ in Arabic literature – in contrast to the ‘Northern Frog’, [[Diphda]] in Ketos ([[Cetus]]). In many cases, Arab constellation culture has anchored two narratives in the star catalogue: on the one hand, the star names from Ptolemy's catalogue are translated into Arabic, but on the other hand, in the case of Arabic proper names for stars, these are also preserved in the written tradition. This makes it possible to reconstruct some of the original Arabic star (constellation) names.

	==== Babylonian ====		==== Babylonian ====